Sonic Alchemy in Ceremonies and Spirit Practices

Ever been moved to tears by a haunting melody or felt a rush of energy at the sound of a drumbeat? Our latest episode journeys through the sacred spaces where music and ritual converge, revealing the profound effects of sound on the spirit and community. From resonant hymns of church to the rhythmic chants in pagan gatherings, we unravel the complexities of live music in rituals, the scientific and spiritual impacts of sound vibrations, and the challenges of harmonizing instruments with sacred ceremonies.

We explore the invisible yet tangible way vibrations can lead to a deep appreciation for how sound shapes our realities. Marvel at the discussion about sound patterns in different mediums and the acoustic wonders of ancient architectures, promising a newfound respect for the transformative potential of sound. These sonic experiences aren't just for the ears; they're felt in the heart, body, and soul, resonating through our water-rich bodies and the world around us.

The episode culminates with a melodic discussion about the selection of music for both personal and collective witchcraft practices, offering insights into the potent synergy between music and the mystical. We discuss the care in choosing tunes for ceremonies and the fine dance between personal expression and community harmony. Our conversation is an invitation to tune in and synchronize with the musical heartbeat of ritual, crafting a deeper connection to the magical threads that weave through our lives. So, grab a cup of coffee and let your curiosity lead you to discover the spellbinding power of music in our shared spiritual journey.

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Speaker 1 0:21

Welcome to Pegging Coffee Talk. If you enjoy our content, please consider donating and following our socials. Now here are your hosts, lord Knight and Oswin. Here's something that we hadn't really talked about. Alright, and I don't hear a lot of people talking about Music and ritual. Okay, or music as part of ritual.

Speaker 2 0:44

Alright. What do you want to know about it?

Speaker 1 0:46

Well, I grew up, music's always been like a very important part of my life, right, Right and growing up in the Christian church, the best part for me was always the music.

Speaker 2 1:02

Okay.

Speaker 1 1:04

Because you could feel the stirrings, you could see people getting into it. It puts people in a certain frame of mind or it can, and we've been to a lot of rituals.

Speaker 2 1:17

Yes.

Speaker 2 1:17

We've performed our fair share of rituals, yeah, and in almost all of the rituals there's no music, there's no chanting, there's no, unless it's part of spell work that I see people doing inside of sacred space I know we normally what scene when we're uncasting circle yeah I mean, yeah, that's about the only thing we do on a regular basis as far as singing together as a group right, I am trying to find other ways to incorporate that, incorporate that into the sacred space, but it lends a wonderful aspect to ritual with everybody singing together and all that.

Speaker 2 2:03

But there's other things about, about music inside circles we got to think about. For some reason I had this vague memory of Lord Men telling me about some traditions. You can either sing or you can play music, but you're never allowed to do both. It was considered to be that somehow the music would interrupt the actual sound of the voice. Huh, All right. Somehow they believe that playing an instrument lessens the sound of someone's voice and if played together they really create disharmony instead of harmony on a spiritual level.

Speaker 1 2:43

That's interesting. I cannot agree with that, but that's interesting. I cannot agree with that, but that's interesting.

Speaker 2 2:47

I've never heard that but again, this is based because their thought on this is the source of the sound I understand that versus yeah wait, let's explain to me which, for all this, an interesting thing of, because I've seen like where.

Speaker 2 3:03

I know you're talking about music, but if we just talk about just sound alone, right, there are certain caves in the British Isles and stuff like that, these mounds where if you sit into the, they're not very big, they're big enough just for you to crawl in there and sit in the center, which is kind of a little bit bigger. But they realized, if you're sitting outside of these circles and someone's playing drums, the hallway and the way the chamber's been constructed, everything starts to resonate. Oh, absolutely, which causes you to resonate at that frequency too.

Speaker 1 3:37

Yes, I mean, if anybody's ever been to a drumming circle.

Speaker 2 3:42

No, no, no. Anyone who's been to a parade? Well, that too. Yes, all right, you can feel the drums from the marching band. Before you can even hear them, you can feel it going through your feet, through the ground Right.

Speaker 1 3:58

Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 3:59

All right. So yes, this is a very powerful part of craft.

Speaker 1 4:06

So yeah, not just music, but, yes, sound in general. Sound in general, and we are talking about more than just speaking. Right, this is other types of sounds, you know drums, maracas, shakers, rain sticks.

Speaker 2 4:22

Again, there's a lot of people and I know you find them out on YouTube where they're playing music at a certain frequency yes, to help you meditate and do other things. So sound does affect us. Scientifically Right. Sound can make you high. Oh yeah, all right. From my understanding, there is the mysterious brown note, where it will cause your bowels to loosen uncontrollably.

Speaker 1 4:51

I have heard of this. I've not experienced it. I don't know that I want to.

Speaker 2 4:55

Well, again, I'm not sure if it's true, but I've heard of people using certain sound waves really high or really really low and literally wind up accidentally killing themselves through liquidating their brain. Oh wow, no, I've not heard of that. You know that literally, they played this sound and so, much, so much it literally wound up liquidizing their whole entire internal organs.

Speaker 2 5:19

That's pretty powerful, stuff, stuff and then there's still the whole entire rumors in which we have nikola tesla, who divided, who supposedly made a device where it could create the resonantial frequency of anything it touched. So if you put it in a building it could cause the building to resonate, and that at one point he actually caused an earthquake. Performing this again. Don't know if this is true, right, but again, even when we look in the mythology and stuff like that the bible, um, help me out here, the place that they go around and blew the horns, oh, jericho, till the walls, again, same thing. Sound and frequency, and all this has always been a part of the occult and craft, depending on how in the world you use it, not now. The only reason I've always found it hard to like bring music into circle is either a you got to get everybody willing to sing. Okay, you got what? 10 people there there's at least five just doing that word yeah, just mouthing the words yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 6:21

So there's where you get a little bit of problem there. But then you got also this problem of how do you bring musical instruments in, because again, bringing electronic devices into Circle don't always work out well for the electronics.

Speaker 1 6:38

Well, most musical instruments I know of are not electronic devices.

Speaker 2 6:44

Ah, so then you have to have people trained to play said guitars.

Speaker 1 6:49

Yeah, and that does pose a problem. That poses a problem to a lot of people. I mean, the easiest thing to bring in is a drum, because everybody can bang on a drum, true? So you know.

Speaker 2 6:59

Don't get me wrong. I mean we're lucky enough. We do have some musicians inside Temple that are just not here on a regular basis to lend that skill. But that's one of the things. This is the one hiccup on all of this I've seen is how do we get this technology, this to where in the world we can get an orchestra and you're with me because I'm doing the electronic stuff. It is a whole lot easier you get, it is.

Speaker 1 7:28

You're with what I'm saying. It is and and we have. We have utilized, you know, bluetooth speakers and stuff like that. We've had to be very careful about placement, because electronics in our sacred space don't tend to go very well together All the time. Right, and it's worked out and it's been a nice addition, but it would be nice to actually have an instrument inside of.

Speaker 2 7:54

Circle Right, because, again, there are certain instruments you'll never be able to always bring inside circle. How are you going to bring a piano in Right, you know how are you going to bring an organ in. How are're going to bring a piano in right, you know how you're going to bring an organ in, how you're going to bring. Well, you're not. I mean, you're never going to get a dragon circle in well, well you might well.

Speaker 1 8:16

There is something about singing, or something that gives the singer this ability to cause people's emotions to run rapid well, it's, it's long been said, and there's a guy on youtube and he makes, he makes the perfect point of this. He's out on the street, he's got a guitar, he's got a mic, he's got a speaker, he's got a big sign that says sing with me. Right, I've seen him, doesn't care if you can't care, if you can't sing, if you can't sing whatever, just come sing with me. And then, as soon as they're done, people have these big smiles on their faces and first question he has how do you feel? And every single time they always say I just feel so happy, I feel so good right now. It releases.

Speaker 1 9:04

In my opinion, I don't have any scientific evidence, but I believe, I believe that singing releases some type of endorphin in the body and makes you feel good. Well, I mean just hearing someone sing. That depends Not to toot my own horn, but it's an example. And I really don't like you know me, and I really don't like you know me.

Speaker 1 9:27

I really don't like building myself up right when I was in high school, our senior talent show right I sang a song I was still part of, I was still in christianity, and so I decided I was going to sing a Christian song as part of my talent show show. All right, right Afterwards I had one of the biggest bullies in school stop me on my way out and look at me and he put his finger to my chest and I thought, oh Lord, here we go. He said that's not fair. I said what do you mean? What's not fair? I said what do you mean? What's not fair? I didn't win. Still, with his finger in my chest, he said that's not fair because you made me cry. This was a guy, not even part of the Christian faith, but something in the way that I sang it, in the way that I presented it, in the way that I presented it.

Speaker 1 10:25

But think about this Touched him in some way.

Speaker 2 10:27

Remember that song that was out not too long ago. It was a remake and it's a woman talking about. She goes to this music show and she's like, and it's just like the singers read all my letters, oh yeah, and with each thing, just stroking my pain in the whole nine yards. Yes, this is the power of music, absolutely. It gives you an access and to allow you to tap into not only your emotions but other people's emotions. All right, and again we've discussed this but emotions are the fuel of spells, yes, so why would, why would we not use songs to do that?

Speaker 1 11:09

Absolutely. I mean one of our coven members. She's told us on several occasions that her most effective spells involve a certain song.

Speaker 2 11:22

Of course you know I have to be the oddball here. All right, right, but father's a mechanic, raised in a garage.

Speaker 3 11:28

All right.

Speaker 2 11:29

Farming garage. Okay, there's my life, but every so often somebody would come in and we would have to resurface the break disc. Okay, okay, and literally all it is, and it sounds funny. It looks just like a record player, right, and literally all it is, and it sounds funny. It looks just like a record player, right, but it's just scraping off of just the top, exactly, yeah, right, just the surface layer, just the surface of it, but the way this thing's set up, the metal plate would start to resonate yes, and make this really weird sound.

Speaker 2 11:56

That was actually quite hypnotic for me, so I find it fascinating how it affected me this way. But it did not affect other people the same way it did me. It almost was hypnotic. I almost couldn't stop myself from.

Speaker 1 12:12

Well, and that's the beauty of sound and resonance and all the stuff that we're talking about. It affects people differently Right, differently right. I mean it's. It's just like any artist who writes a song. They will tell you the beauty of this is that it's going to mean something different to somebody else right so it's the same way with sound and frequencies and resonations, and well, I mean, and then we have.

Speaker 2 12:39

Then we still have the stories of spells being sung instead of spoken. Yes, all right, because you have Greek mythology. What's his name? Orpheus. Orpheus, who apparently could just do all sorts of catastrophes or whatever he wanted just by playing the right notes. Yes, all right. So again, I think there's something there. I mean, you don't make a story about something like that if there's not something.

Speaker 1 13:04

Right? No, I completely agree with that. I mean, you don't make a story about something like that if there's not something, Right? No, I completely agree with that. I mean it had to be based on something. It came from somewhere.

Speaker 2 13:11

Well, I mean again, if we think about our development. I mean think about the cold chills you get just to hear a lone wolf howling in the middle of the night. Oh, I know, and it's beautiful too. No, again, we have no fear of the wolf now, but back in the day that was. If they're close enough for me to hear them, they're close enough to get me. Right, I need to be aware.

Speaker 1 13:32

Right, I need to put myself on guard.

Speaker 2 13:34

Right, so again. Hence the reason you get the cold chills and stuff like that, and it's kind of spooky. You're like, oh Right, no, no, that's your basic monkey, monkey brain going. No danger, oh danger, real well, with some danger good lord that's where we're going. Okay, this is something that's triggered by a sound. Right now, here's would be an extra good question do these sounds still affect people, like singing and stuff when you're deaf?

Speaker 1 14:10

well, I know.

Speaker 2 14:12

I know that deaf people, or at least some of them, can feel vibrations the majority of the ones I grew up around um, they would lay speakers actually on the floor right to cause the floor to resonate, so they can sort of hear it.

Speaker 1 14:27

Right. So, and I'm going to say in that regard yes, I don't think that they're quote, unquote, hearing the same way we think of hearing.

The Influence of Sound and Music

Speaker 2 14:39

But no, I'm just thinking because they're feeling it. They're feeling it just like we are, like through your skin and stuff, but we get to hear it. They're. They're feeling it. They're feeling it just like we are, like through your skin and stuff, but we get to hear it. I'm wondering if that vibration of that physical vibration is it, does it somehow affect them? In fact, you asked what I'm saying, like we would hear and it could be affecting us to a certain extent I'm gonna say, yes, I.

Speaker 1 15:01

I can just imagine that if I didn't have my hearing and I experienced something like that, I think it would. I think it would trigger me to go into a different space.

Speaker 2 15:14

I don't know for sure, you know. I mean we've seen the singers, the deaf singers, where they do the signing and stuff like that. So again, I understand you can memorize those motions, but the flow of it or something there, you can tell they're following the rhythm of the song, right, even though they can't hear it.

Speaker 1 15:36

Right. And that goes. That goes with the vibrations. They're feeling the vibrations to keep the beat, Sort of.

Speaker 2 15:44

But it makes me wonder if they've developed that sense as to where in the world it is affecting them to about the same extent it does us.

Speaker 1 15:49

I don't know, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 15:53

I know there's no way to tell unless you got someone that.

Speaker 1 15:55

Anybody out there got a deaf friend who can tell us who used to hear and now is deaf? I would love to know. I would love to know Seriously.

Speaker 2 16:03

You know, and then just asking questions there, right, you know, I mean because the idea of sound and using it. Let's see, we've seen what Levitation.

Speaker 3 16:13

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 16:13

Through sound. Did you ever see where they're running sound through water and it creates the patterns. Yes, fascinating.

Speaker 1 16:23

Well, and then, speaking of patterns, there's a guy I think I saw him on YouTube he's got this big metal disc. It looks like a huge table and he throws salt on. It, covers the top in just a thin layer of salt, clears off a small little spot, and then he takes a rubber mallet and he just strokes and it creates the vibrations and depending on how fast or how long or how deep the vibrations are, it creates different patterns on the disc, on the disc, which is really cool, well. So it's a lot like the water experiment, well I love things like that.

Speaker 2 17:02

Well, I mean, it's just like they do these uh ones where they put a bowl or something on top of a speaker, yes, and then you see the water dripping up.

Speaker 1 17:10

Yes, and you can see them in different patterns as well, you can see.

Speaker 2 17:14

So again, these sounds have to physically be affecting us too, right, all right, it has to be physically affecting the the world around us. Okay, maybe not a wall as much as air, but you're with me. I know it's harder to produce sound underwater and you've got to do it at higher frequencies and get any distance there.

Speaker 1 17:37

I think. So I'm not really sure about that whole water thing, because I know for, like, for the synchronized dancers, the water dancers, yeah, there are uh speakers under the water okay as far as I know, so that they're sort of hearing right.

Speaker 2 17:57

Then they can hear when they come up think about it like this uh, remember, like on harry potter, when you opened up the thing above water. Yes, again, the notes have to be a little bit higher, but underwater they sound correct because the medium's a little bit thicker Could be. Yeah, I think is the way that works. But again, we're what? 75% water.

Speaker 1 18:19

Yeah, why wouldn't it resonate inside of us? Why wouldn't it resonate?

Speaker 2 18:22

Why couldn't? We would have to be careful. Why wouldn't it resonate inside of us? Why wouldn't it resonate? Why couldn't? We would have to be careful. You do not. I don't think you want your brain resonating inside your skull, oh Lord, no. Or your skull resonating just shattering, right, I mean, because, again, it's the opera singers that used to do the oh, the shatter of glass, the shatter of the glass. Yeah, all right, out of the glass. Yeah, all right. This is a real possibility. It is, yeah, oh god, who used to do it all the time. Um, I cannot remember. I remember there was one lady back in the day that could ella fitzgerald.

Speaker 1 18:52

Okay, but the only thing with her is uh, it was amplified to 100 decimals. Ah, through specific speakers. It was an ad for Memorex speakers.

Speaker 2 19:04

I'd say I remember.

Speaker 1 19:07

So she did it, but she had assistance.

Speaker 2 19:09

She had a little assistance there. Just a little bit, but again, it still proves that it could be done yeah. You know, I mean yeah, you could do it, Maybe, I guess somebody could do it with a natural voice.

Speaker 1 19:24

Yeah, it's been shown. I can't name any names, but there have been a handful of people, or less than a handful of people, who can do it, I think, mainly if you really want to use sound or music inside of Circle in this way.

Speaker 2 19:41

you might have to build up certain barriers, physical barriers right outside the circle to cause the sound to well, I think that would help so again you're, you're going to have to have someone that has a little bit of knowledge on engineering well, yeah, but I think it's called sound engineering. There's a specific field on how to line all that stuff up to cause the sound. The kind of because they even said stonehenge does the same thing. Yes, it does is that if you set drummers in between the rocks and at certain points that they can cause all the area to resonate.

Speaker 2 20:18

It will not surprise me when they finally you know, do I make some sound machine that will actually create lightning or something by vibrating the molecules in the atmosphere right, yeah god, I couldn't imagine what frequency that would have to be. I'm just saying I'm waiting from the stuff like this, you know yeah and not, you know, getting too conspiratorial, but there is a more there. You got the so-called harp where it's.

Speaker 1 20:46

There's some crazy stuff they say about that well, yeah, but again this that's a little beyond the scope.

Speaker 2 20:51

But is this not? Would you not consider this technology a further of what in the world we're talking about? It's just now. We're going in the ranges that we can't hear or even be affected by. Yeah, but you know, Are we going to consider this something different.

Speaker 1 21:10

See, I mean I can see how it would kind of correlate, but I think that's getting beyond the scope of Actual sound and craft. Right, I think that's getting beyond that scope.

Speaker 2 21:27

I don't know how to put that, but do you see what I'm saying? I can see where the line there would be a little fuzzy, and I'm not trying to, I'm just pointing this out, as you know. I'm asking you where do you think we should draw that line, considering music is your expertise in this subject.

Speaker 1 21:45

Well, don't, I don't know that it's my expertise, but yeah, you're with me. Yeah, it's, it's. I think you draw the line when it goes beyond physical and mental okay that's what we're concerned with as part of craft. We're concerned with the physical, the spiritual, the mental all right.

Speaker 2 22:05

Well, now we've been talking about all this other stuff, so let's add a little bit actual craft back into this. Okay, right. So how are we going to base this music up? Are we basing it on sacred math? Are we going to base it on, like, heart rhythms?

Speaker 3 22:19

uh, I mean well, do you see?

Speaker 2 22:20

what I'm saying when you, when, when we're introducing music into ritual Right.

Speaker 1 22:27

Now, when you're going to sort of use, when you start getting into that, you're going to need, you're going to need somebody who truly has a thorough understanding of music and a thorough understanding of math, sacred math in particular, in order to incorporate something like that okay, well, you don't have you're, you're not one of the.

Speaker 2 22:49

Again, no offense, but no I know you. You're not one of those people. I'm not a math person.

Speaker 1 22:53

You're not a math person, and sacred math is even more of a devil to you all right right, I love hearing the conversations, but I can only take them in small doses here and there, so so again now my question is for those people who don't have that, can't do that technical part how other ways could you see us start to bring music more into craft, and what would you base it on?

Speaker 1 23:17

well, and here's the thing all right, see what I'm asking yeah, here's the thing the music does not have to be craft related no years ago we did a sound, one ritual, and we brought in some music that pertained to. I believe the song was called I'm still alive, or something like that. I don't really.

Speaker 2 23:40

Yeah, it was by fly, by fly leaf. It was our um, it was our instrument yeah, it was the acoustic version.

Speaker 1 23:46

Yeah, but it was something like I can feel you all around me, yeah, right. And so what we did? Is we messages from the veil? Wow, right, so you think about a loved one who's been, who's passed on.

Music in Witchcraft Practices

Speaker 2 23:59

Close your eyes and then listen to the song.

Speaker 1 24:02

Right, so it it doesn't have to be craft related, but my advice is going to be find something that touches your heart. If it touches you, chances are it's going to touch somebody else. Chances are it's going to touch somebody else.

Speaker 2 24:18

All right? Well, let's make this a little bit simpler. All right, let's say you're not doing ritual.

Speaker 1 24:23

Okay.

Speaker 2 24:23

All right, let's say I or somebody else is writing ritual. We want you to bring some music into it right. We want you to bring and use your music to bring in fire energy.

Speaker 3 24:35

Okay.

Speaker 2 24:35

And that's it. That's all we're going to give you. So what's going to be your thought process? What might you go through to go? Okay, what song makes me think of fire? That might make other people think of fire, Precisely?

Speaker 1 24:49

Are you?

Speaker 2 24:49

just going to be again are we just going to be completely obnoxious and get the doors set tonight on fire to drive the point I did.

Speaker 1 25:04

That's all part of the process for me. When, when that happens, um, typically what I do is I'll meditate on it, I'll see if I get anything. That way, you could do a card reading and see if something comes up that way, go through your favorite songs or some of your non-favorite songs or whatever, and see if anything relates to that.

Speaker 2 25:20

So, like you said, set the night on fire any song dealing with fire I mean, I mean, I know it's a little, I know it's a little on the nose, but may not be in that musical right and knowing rhythms and stuff like that I'm, if I'm, when I've picked songs for rituals, uh-huh, they're normally on the nose, like that. They're normally, normally quite blunt in your face. But yet when you sometimes pick songs, I notice they're not quite always so blunt and they're a little bit more.

Speaker 1 25:49

Sometimes they are not quite as in your face about the topic, I don't know. Sometimes I find that in some of the more obscure things is where you get the best message. Not always, not always, so it could be. It could be a rhythm, it could be, could be a particular set of instruments that they're using. Could be something talking about torches instead of burning the night up. It could be anything along those lines.

Speaker 2 26:25

All right.

Speaker 1 26:26

But my suggestion is, if I suggest, please play around with it. See what?

Speaker 2 26:32

works for you. But again, I really don't see anybody you know anytime soon at a hand, fasting, picking you know baby's got back or something you know, or the thong song.

Speaker 1 26:44

No, but that would be funny. Highly inappropriate in my opinion, but that would be funny.

Speaker 2 26:52

So now, speaking of that, weddings and hand fastings and stuff these are ceremonies and stuff and sometimes we'll have music play during this Right. So again, when you're talking to certain people and we're and you're doing ritual and you're trying to help them pick music, are you letting them pick all the music? Are you just making suggestions?

Speaker 1 27:13

well, I like, I like to start and see if they have anything in particular, right? Because usually, especially for weddings hand fastings, things like that people will have specific songs already in mind, right? I think it's always good if you can go with that and use that to your advantage. It's a little less work on your part, but absolutely Find out first if they have anything in mind.

Speaker 2 27:39

Now let's do the flip side of this now what about funerals?

Speaker 1 27:43

funerals same thing.

Speaker 2 27:45

Families oftentimes have certain music that they won't played, or sung or something like that, and start there now, if it's a member, if it's a member of our temple, you yourself might take a moment during the service to honor or to say a little speech about, and I've even seen people take time during that time to actually do sing during these times. This would be more of a personal selection to you and not toward the family. Would you let them know about this ahead of time going look, I'm going to sing this song. I know you might not like it. Yes, yes, a fun song, but it was his favorite song, so I know it's completely inappropriate. I know it's. No, we we understand. We hate that song too. Yes, and we had it because he did listen to it all the time yeah, yeah, no, I, I that would definitely go into my plans as well.

Speaker 1 28:43

I mean, especially if you're gonna have some time where other people are saying things or you know, wanting to get up to say or do something, um, in honor of the deceased, I think that's perfectly fine. But yes, that's a personal choice and, yeah, the song that I choose might not be the song that the family would choose, but as long as they're okay with it, then that's what I'm gonna do now if we're about to get a little too personal here.

Speaker 2 29:11

Do you personally use music to cast your spells? Do you sing your spells? I have been known to, all right, because you don't want me to sing mine.

Speaker 1 29:20

I have been known to. I don't always I do enjoy the musicality of it, but yeah, I have and they've been pretty effective.

Speaker 2 29:28

Does it allow you to get away with casting spells in more public places, because people just think you're singing some random song?

Speaker 1 29:34

Yes, that they don't know.

Speaker 2 29:35

Yes, Do you see any difference between now again, chanting does the same things.

Speaker 1 29:46

To a certain extent, yes, but it's not quite, as chanting is more about the repetitive of it. It's kind of like drumming, right, but the thing about chanting is, chanting can be done in rhythms. It can not be done in rhythms. Chanting can be done with tones or no tones whatsoever.

Speaker 2 30:05

Um more like just speaking would you consider chanting to fall into the same category as sunk in craft um? Just like we sort of talked that you could sort of say we're sound, just the general sound would be all wrapped up into this.

Speaker 1 30:20

as a big old, Sometimes Think about Gregorian chant. Gregorian chant is it's got a sing-song feel to it. Oh, it is quite hypnotic and beautiful, but it is yeah, it's based on rhythm and it is based on sound.

Speaker 2 30:37

Yeah.

Speaker 1 30:38

So, yes, in some aspects and in some cases, yes, it could be considered the same thing.

Speaker 2 30:44

And that one lonely month they can't sing is cleaning all the toilets Exactly, or scrubbing the floors while everybody else is sitting there chanting. Is there anything else about music and craft you would like to?

Speaker 1 30:59

I think that about covers it. I mean for this little episode, take some time play around with it again, again.

Speaker 1 31:08

Not all frequencies work for the same people right, and it's not going to touch everybody the same way every time, not right? So, depending on how deep you want to dig into it, dig into the frequencies and dig into the sacred geometry, take it as far as you want. I mean, it's an art and it's called an art for a reason, you know? Yeah, and as an art, it is ultimately craft related, so do it have fun with it. All right related, so do it have fun with it.

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Speaker 2 31:43

All right, go out and make some music. Yes, nobody else wants to hear it, and we're going for coffee.

Speaker 1 31:52

Thanks for listening. Join us next week for another episode. Pagan Coffee Talk is brought to you by Life Temple and Seminary. Please visit us at life temple seminaryorg for more information, as well as links to our social media facebook, discord, twitter, youtube and reddit we travel down this trodden path, the maze of stone and mire.

Speaker 3 32:17

Just hold my hand as we pass by a sea of blazing fires, and so it is the end of our day, so walk with me till morning breaks. And so it is the end of our day. So walk with me till morning.