Answering Random Reddit Posts

Ever feel like your practice has to look perfect to be real? We’re calling that out with a cup of coffee in hand. We lean into practical witchcraft that survives power outages, busy lives, and curious cats. Our goal is simple: make the craft work for you, not the other way around.

We dig into why some rituals sputter while others sing, teasing apart motivation, emotional investment, and the value of a quick divination before you commit time and supplies. Respectful practice gets real talk too—especially with Celtic traditions that aren’t tidy or linear. You define respectful, then hold yourself to it. Focus becomes a throughline with ADHD-friendly tips: cut artificial dyes and sugar, use caffeine wisely, and train your mind with meditation so intrusive thoughts don’t become bugs in your magical code.

We keep it human and a little cheeky. Can Santa be a deity? If that symbol sparks generosity and seasonal magic, go for it. Language experiments—from Latin to Klingon—can deepen trance by forcing attention. We swap notes on pets around altars, personal links like blood in private workings, and why bay leaves show up so often: they’re simple, writable, and burn clean. Newcomers get grounded advice: listen more than you speak, learn from people you disagree with, and remember that no single book makes you a better occultist—doing does. Your path will change as you do; you can blend traditions, but study one deeply before you mix and watch for contradictions you might drag along.

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Speaker 3 0:17

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Energy Cleanses And Coincidence

Speaker 5 0:26

Hi. Hi, what's up? We're looking at Reddit today. Let's see how this goes. Oh Lord. Read the first one.

Speaker 3 0:37

I recently learned that when you do a cleanse, whoever's been feeding off of your energy will reach out to you shortly afterwards.

Speaker 5 0:44

I I guess so. I mean, if you're turning off the feed trot, I guess that would I would be the first one to walk over going, hey, where's my energy?

Speaker 3 0:52

Right. You know, I'm just saying. It would kind of make sense.

Speaker 5 0:55

You know, but are you sure that it was that person or are you just putting things together?

Speaker 3 1:02

Well, again, there's you're you're dealing with spells, so let's it's a little common sense here.

Speaker 5 1:08

All right. I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 1:10

Right.

Speaker 5 1:10

There are there there are such things called a coincidence. They do actually happen.

Speaker 3 1:17

They do coincidences do exist.

Speaker 5 1:19

It is a real phenomenon.

Grimoires: Binders Vs Books

Speaker 3 1:21

Yes, it is. All right. All right. What are you using for a grimoire?

Speaker 5 1:29

Well, I'm using a three-ring binder, and what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 1:34

I mean, ultimately does it really matter. I mean, I use a three-ring binder as well.

Speaker 5 1:39

But I know some people that just use a book and keep it in it as one of the journal books.

Speaker 3 1:45

I mean, you can get pre-made journals with blank pages. You can get um DIY kits and you make your own.

Speaker 5 1:54

I just happen to like the three-ring binders because you can it's easier to switch out pages and stuff as you start to develop. Right. I mean, Lord Lord Men's was what, three freaking file boxes.

Speaker 3 2:06

Yeah. Of binders. Of binders.

unknown 2:12

Yeah.

Speaker 5 2:12

So I that that's what I have to say about that. So yeah, use whatever. I mean, the only the only reason the only reason I would tell you not to use electronics because sometimes the power goes out.

Speaker 3 2:23

Well, it does. Sometimes computers break. It's you know, it's that's not nice to have a paper backup, if you will.

Speaker 5 2:30

Yeah. Um I'm not saying don't have an electronic copy. I'm just saying think of all the ways things go wrong.

Speaker 3 2:37

Right. Try to print it out and at least keep a physical copy somewhere.

Speaker 5 2:40

Right.

Speaker 3 2:41

Just say, please keep it backup, multiple backups. You know, because honestly, I've got some of my stuff that I need to transfer to. Mine, I've got it on my on my computer, on my OneDrive. I've got it, I have it in a couple of places. I just need to put it in my binder.

Speaker 5 2:59

I look, I can't even remember the last time I've updated mine.

Rituals, Belief, And Results

Speaker 3 3:05

Uh, here's one from the Magic Reddit. Did my ritual from RO seven spheres not work because I don't believe in Jesus, or did I just blatantly do something wrong?

Speaker 5 3:15

How about basely it just don't work for you?

Speaker 3 3:18

I mean, let's face it, some things work, some things don't.

Speaker 5 3:23

You know, I mean, I I don't know. It really depends. Did you have the right motivation? Did you did you use the whole witch's pyramid behind all this concept, or did you just do step one, two, three, and uh you you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. And not really do anything. I I don't know how to say that. That would be my first question. Were you actively, were you emotionally invested? Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 3:52

There there well, and sometimes even then, it just doesn't work.

Speaker 5 3:57

Right.

Speaker 3 3:58

There might have been anything in place to where it just it's not for you. And don't feel bad because something doesn't work, just move on and find something that does.

Speaker 5 4:09

You know, I mean, I I again I'm back to hey, why did you not do at least a divination on the spell before to see if it was even worth the time and the effort?

Speaker 3 4:20

But if it's a ritual, do you really need a divination on a ritual?

Speaker 5 4:24

Again, if this is the ritual, if this is the ritual we keep on hearing in modern paganism, it could just be a spell.

Speaker 2 4:32

Maybe.

Speaker 5 4:33

All right, because again, people tend to flip those two back and forth.

Speaker 2 4:37

Maybe.

Speaker 5 4:38

So I'm just putting it out there. Just Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of things that there, you know, more questions that would have to be asked.

Speaker 3 4:48

True. There's a lot of details we don't know about.

Speaker 5 4:52

So again, hence reason vague answers, vague question.

Respectful Celtic Practice

Speaker 3 4:55

Right. Of course, now keep in mind I'm just reading the headlines from these. I'm not delving actually into the comments. Um, how to respectfully practice Celtic paganism.

Speaker 5 5:09

In whatever way you feel respectful.

Speaker 3 5:12

I mean I mean We've we feel like whatever practice you have, whatever.

Speaker 5 5:21

I am not scared some ancient Celt is going to drag himself up out of the grave, come across the ocean and smack me around because I mispronounced a word.

Speaker 3 5:31

Right. I I mean I think as as long as your intention is in the right place, right, and you're not just like drastically mutilating whatever it is you've you've garnered from this path. I think that's being respectful. That's and and well, I'm I'm gonna be.

Speaker 5 6:08

Celtic mythology is a little messed up in the head. I'm just saying. Well, it is. I mean So again, as vaguish as it is, it's hard. How do you we don't know? Again, so there's no way to answer the question. How do you do it respectfully? How do you do this respectfully and we don't even have half?

Speaker 3 6:27

Well, and I would say, what is your definition of respectfully?

Speaker 5 6:31

Yeah.

Speaker 3 6:32

Why don't you start there and go with it?

Speaker 5 6:35

Just say it.

Speaker 3 6:37

Define what respectful is for you and use that as your basis. All right. I mean if it doesn't meet that criteria, then it's not respectful. I think that's probably the best way to go about that.

Speaker 5 6:50

I think it is too, but you know, again, Celtic mythology is not some No, it's not linear, it's not cohesive, it's not whatsoever.

Speaker 3 6:58

Oh, it's just all over the place. Respectfully.

Speaker 4 7:05

It's all over the place. Just saying.

ADHD Tips And Focus

Speaker 3 7:10

It's not the easiest thing to follow. Um, any witchy ADH tips, ADHD tips or hacks to help with focus.

Speaker 5 7:20

Get rid of all the artificial flavors and colorings and cut as much sugar out of your diet as you can.

Speaker 3 7:27

And if you're hyperactive, caffeine usually helps.

Speaker 5 7:31

It does. Stimulus normally helps, and believe it or not, for me, mine's actually caused by the artificial flavor. So if you don't have them in your system, it doesn't become a problem. Because that's the trigger. Because in some of us, it is a food allergy from those specific things. Right.

Speaker 3 7:54

I just something to explore.

Speaker 5 7:58

Just saying. You know, you know, if you can do it in a natural way and not make a peel, I I'm always up for that.

Santa As A Deity

Speaker 3 8:04

God, yes. It's always so much better, in my opinion. Oh, here's a good one coming out of the Christmas holiday. Can I worship Santa as a deity?

Speaker 5 8:16

As soon as the witches council gets off their asses, come down here and tell me I'm what I'm doing wrong, I'm sure they'll get to you too.

Speaker 3 8:22

Right? Go for it. If Santa is your deity, then by all means.

Speaker 5 8:29

Nobody's gonna stop you.

Speaker 3 8:31

You know, I mean, you've got eight reindeer, so eight sabbits. I'm just saying. Why not? Go for it. Go for it. Um, how to become educated and how to choose a practice.

Speaker 5 8:47

Well, I mean, all you can do is read.

Speaker 3 8:52

Unless you know a group or have found a group of a particular past that interests you.

Speaker 6 8:59

Right.

Speaker 3 9:00

The best way is to read read books with a grain of salt.

Speaker 5 9:05

Uh-huh. And and talk to people. And talk to people. I cannot tell you how much more I probably learnt from Lord Man than for as many years as you and every all our friends made fun of me and him sitting on the couch like two little hence, just talking witchcraft for ye for hours on end. Yep. The whole entire party's going on. Me and him will wind up on the couch at some point and we will talk for hours. On the couch or out on the porch. This is where you learn more. Talk to people. I mean, literally have conversations and and have conversations with people you don't agree with. So again, different viewpoints, different things.

Speaker 3 9:44

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 5 9:46

All right. Find that person you hate, have a conversation. Tell me about your path.

Speaker 3 9:50

Let's have a conversation. And as far as choosing a practice, once you've done enough research, just pick something that interests you.

Speaker 5 9:58

Well, I mean, whatever counsel.

Speaker 3 10:06

I mean, there's so many different things.

Speaker 5 10:10

But again, if you're doing the whole solitaire thing, what does it matter?

Speaker 3 10:15

Whatever interests you.

Speaker 5 10:17

Again, there's no witches council.

Speaker 3 10:21

Nobody's gonna come down and tell you you're doing it wrong.

Speaker 5 10:24

So I mean, I'm well, I'm sure there's gonna be a few people. There's always a few people. But that's social media. That don't count.

Speaker 3 10:31

That's well, that's the other tip. Get your nose out of social media.

Speaker 5 10:36

Or at least don't be so invested in it. I mean, come on.

Intrusive Thoughts And Spell Focus

Speaker 3 10:39

Witch talk is not the definitive answer. Just saying. They're entertaining, but they're not definitive answers. What else do we have? Completely out of context, I'm sure, because we're not delving into the comments. Intrusive thoughts and spells. Oh. That's my question. Do you let the intrusive thoughts in?

Speaker 5 11:06

No, you're supposed to keep them out. I mean, again, regardless of the spell, you don't want intrusive thoughts. You want to make sure you can hold those thoughts in your head like they are for a long period of time.

Speaker 3 11:23

Right. Spells are about focus and intention.

Speaker 5 11:27

All right. To prep for a spell like this, you best be meditating on that too in the world. Okay, I can hold this meditate, I can hold this in meditation for 45 minutes. If I can do that, I can do a five-minute spell. Right. Without intrusive thoughts. If we think about spells, and the way we do it is the way like we're programming an out or something, those intrusive thoughts are little bugs we're putting in there that could just slightly send it off course.

Speaker 3 11:59

Could, yeah.

Speaker 5 12:00

You know, I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 12:03

So best advice, do not let the intrusive thoughts win. As tempting as it might be.

Speaker 5 12:09

And again, and again, do your meditations. The more meditation you do, the better off.

Speaker 3 12:15

Right. Um, have you used your own blood or body fluids for spells?

Speaker 6 12:25

Yes.

Speaker 3 12:26

Yes. Yes.

Speaker 5 12:28

I have. I have. Those are my personal and private ones, but yes, I have.

Speaker 3 12:34

Yeah. Um there's nothing that says you can't.

Speaker 6 12:38

No.

Speaker 3 12:40

And I'm back to if the ingredients include something that's personal to you, something that means something to you, go for it. All the better, because that puts a better connection to that spell for you.

Speaker 5 12:55

I would agree with that 100%.

Speaker 3 12:58

So by all means. Um, natural ways to reconnect with strong spiritual energy.

Reconnecting With Spiritual Energy

Speaker 5 13:08

Meditation. Meditation.

Speaker 3 13:12

Sometimes I really wish we were delving into the comments on these just to get a little more heads up on this. But yeah, I think just going by the title here, yeah, meditation's probably the best way.

Speaker 5 13:25

Yeah, yeah. Meditation is always the answer. Yeah. Yeah. What was that? What was that? One of our priestess used to say, Meditate for two days and come back and see me. Yes.

Record-Keeping And Iteration

Speaker 3 13:36

Solution to everything. Uh, what else do we have? Remember your spells.

Speaker 5 13:46

Well, I mean, if you're being really honest about it, you should be putting them in your remote. Yeah. With enough paper there to note any notes you need to on how it did or didn't do, or right.

Speaker 3 14:02

Make sure you keep a keep a record of your ingredients, your timing, whatever else you use to do the spell.

Speaker 5 14:10

Some space to go back and say, hey, this is this is what this is where it is that you know, so many weeks out, or this or one week out versus two weeks out.

Advice For Newcomers

Speaker 3 14:21

You gotta think of it as a research, y'all. And just I know it sounds boring. If your spell doesn't work, go back, make some alterations, make notes of your alterations. Keep track of what works and what doesn't. Finally, you will come up with a spell that works every time. Just saying. It's the easiest way to do it. Oh, here's a good one. It's very vague, but I'm gonna ask you the question. So it just says a message to newcomers. What would your message to newcomers be? Run. Run now.

Speaker 1 15:04

Run as fast as you can.

Speaker 5 15:06

Forest, run, forest, run.

Speaker 1 15:09

No.

Speaker 5 15:10

Uh no. A, don't take yourself too seriously. B, talk to everybody. Listen to everybody. All right?

Speaker 3 15:22

Yep. Conversations.

Speaker 5 15:23

I bet you speaky little, listen much. Ask a question. Let people talk. Alright? And again, you let people talk long enough, you'll you'll you'll figure out real fast if you can trust them or not, or what they do and what they don't know.

Speaker 2 15:38

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 15:39

People will tell them themselves really fast before you know it.

Speaker 7 15:43

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 15:45

Just let them talk.

Speaker 3 15:47

Good advice. What books make you a better occultist?

Speaker 4 15:54

None of them.

Speaker 3 15:55

I was gonna say, are there really any books that make you better?

Speaker 4 15:59

None of them.

Speaker 3 16:00

I think you can garner little bits and pieces, but no one book.

Do Books Make Better Occultists?

Speaker 5 16:06

I don't think no one book is you get better by doing. Yeah. Not by just sitting there reading. So you got to go out, you gotta do. See, that makes sense. I mean, and then again, when when we when we sitting here saying this, we're saying that we should par practice the religious side of this. Not necessarily, I'm not saying go out and do a spell today or anything.

Speaker 3 16:30

Right, no, yeah, because you know, for well for us it's a spiritual spiritual path.

Speaker 5 16:36

Yeah if you know all you're doing is that and just doing the spells as a little bit as you can and trying to understand them.

Speaker 3 16:47

Yeah, and I would say the only thing that the only thing besides that that would make you a better occultist is just not focusing on the spell work.

Speaker 5 16:57

True.

Speaker 3 17:00

I think spells spells become a bit of a crutch for us. Okay when you when you do them so m so often, and this is this is the real reason why we are not big on spell work. Hint hint, heads up, you know, saves us information. It's because it becomes a crutch.

Speaker 6 17:22

Yeah.

Speaker 3 17:22

When you do it all the time and you and you're constantly working with spells, it becomes a crutch.

Coffee Grounds, Tea Leaves, And Language

Speaker 5 17:28

Because it's easier to do a spell than to fix what's going on in your life, yes, or what's going on with you, not and you become and you become reliant on that, and then if it doesn't work, you s some people have been known to spiral into depression because their spells don't work. But again, it should be the other way around. We should be using spells to help us figure out those problems.

Speaker 3 17:52

Yes.

Speaker 5 17:53

Not to fix the problems for us or to remove them.

Speaker 3 17:57

It should be a tool, not a cure.

Speaker 5 18:00

Thank you.

Speaker 3 18:06

Definition of coffee grounds. Have you ever done that? I've never done that.

Speaker 5 18:10

No, but I could see how it would work. It'd be the same thing as tea leaves.

Speaker 3 18:14

I was gonna say people read tea leaves.

Speaker 5 18:15

Why not?

Speaker 3 18:16

I mean Okay.

Speaker 5 18:18

Yay.

Speaker 3 18:20

Um, oh, what about using fantasy languages in like your spells and rituals?

Speaker 5 18:26

I I could see that.

Speaker 3 18:28

Like maybe Klingon.

Speaker 5 18:30

Again, anything that requires you to think harder about what you're doing when you're doing it, go for it. Because that again, you you have to get more level, you have to get an it gives an extra level of concentration on top of it. So you're having to speak in a different language, right?

Speaker 3 18:48

It also brings a completely different level of familiarity with what's going on with what you're doing, yeah, and what's going on within that space, that ritual or that spell.

Speaker 5 18:58

Because again, I hate to be doing that translation, puts your brain into a slightly different, altered state.

Speaker 3 19:04

It really does. It really does.

Speaker 5 19:07

You know, I mean, I'm I'm sure you ask any singer or somebody, any choir kid, I'll say it that way. Yes, them, and all the different Italian and stuff. Y'all have to learn to do that. Again, it it changes the way you do it, the way you think. And oh yeah. I could see that easily.

Speaker 3 19:29

Yeah, Latin, Latin was always a trigger for me. I don't know what happened anytime I ever sang Latin, it was just like boom, whole nother reality.

Speaker 5 19:38

Yes. So again, it I I think it would be a great enhancement to spouse. Now, is it something I would do? No, I could barely speak English.

Pets Around Altars

Speaker 3 19:48

But if you can, go for it. It's actually a great idea. Practicing your craft with curious pets. Is it a problem? When they knock things over. Well, I mean, we've we've had cats, we've had dogs. They've all been curious.

Speaker 5 20:08

At some point or another, you just you know you learn not to leave your cords dangling off the side because every cat's going to Yeah.

Speaker 3 20:17

And especially don't have them tied to your atom. Because it's gonna wind up in the floor. And if your atom is made of acidion, then well it breaks. It breaks. So just say.

Speaker 5 20:33

Lesson learned. We know nothing about that, do we? Yes, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 20:42

Otherwise, it's not a problem. I mean no.

Speaker 5 20:45

I mean, again, until they start knocking things over, it's not a problem.

Speaker 3 20:49

Yeah, no, uh, I find that most animals, especially if you're really close with your animals, they're drawn to it. They're they're drone to it. They're they want to know what's going on.

Speaker 5 21:00

But uh not damaging or pulling anything off.

Speaker 3 21:04

Not usually, no.

Speaker 5 21:05

Not usually, so I'm not saying it don't happen.

Paths For Skeptics

Speaker 3 21:08

Cats are more of a different creature, creature altogether because sometimes their curiosity goes a little too far. Just keep that in mind. Um I don't think that's a bad thing though. Is there a path for a skeptic to take? Like a specific path that would be better for skeptics.

Speaker 5 21:34

No, I don't I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 3 21:39

See, I'm not either. Um to be quite honest with you, I don't I think any path is good for a skeptic.

Speaker 5 21:47

Yeah, I mean, if anything, if it kills off the skepticism about what you're following, that's a better indicator you're going where you need to.

Speaker 3 21:59

Right. Again, start with something that interests you.

Speaker 5 22:04

Yeah.

Speaker 3 22:05

Even if it's just a slight interest.

Speaker 5 22:07

Because again, I I would tell all of us, we all should be skeptical.

Speaker 3 22:11

That's where I was going. We should all be skeptical about it.

Getting Back Into Magic

Speaker 5 22:15

Yeah. I I don't know, at least, you know, 30% skeptical all the time.

Speaker 3 22:23

Yeah. I think it I think that helps keep us grounded. It helps keep us inquisitive.

Speaker 6 22:30

Yeah.

Speaker 3 22:32

And, you know, it helps answer questions because once you if you're skeptical, you're gonna ask questions and you know you're gonna be like, well, hey, what about what about this? What about this?

Speaker 4 22:44

What about that?

Speaker 3 22:45

This doesn't fit into this narrative. Right. What what what are you doing here?

Speaker 5 22:48

I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 22:50

And I think that's I think that's what we should all be doing. Oh god, yes. So if you're a skeptic, take any path.

Speaker 5 22:59

Take any path.

Why Bay Leaves Show Up

Speaker 3 23:01

Doesn't even have to be a pagan path. Take any path. Be a skeptic. Have fun with it. Uh what else have we got? Any advice for getting back into magic and reconnecting? Yeah. I think it's like riding a bike. I don't think you forget.

Speaker 5 23:22

Meditation.

Speaker 3 23:29

Well, I think that's the best way to for reconnecting. Just just but I'm just saying, I don't think I don't think it's something you're you're likely to forget.

Speaker 6 23:39

No, no.

Speaker 3 23:40

I mean depending on how long you've been in it and how long you've been away.

Speaker 5 23:45

Well I mean, just to re-spark that feeling, no, a little bit of meditation and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 23:50

And goes a long way.

Speaker 5 23:53

I'm sorry, this is depending on how long you've been doing it, yeah, it's sort of like riding a bike. So uh Yeah.

Speaker 3 24:01

I mean, I I hate for it to be that simple of an answer, but it really is that simple.

Speaker 5 24:07

I think it's really that simple.

Speaker 3 24:09

Um why are bay leaves so important to spells and hexes? I mean, I have seen where there's bay leaves are in a lot of spell works.

Speaker 5 24:22

Yeah, but no more than I think any of the others.

Speaker 3 24:26

I think the bay leaf is just it's an easy way to accommodate your spell.

Speaker 5 24:33

I don't I mean, most typically you're you're writing on or placing something on the reason all I have in my mind is about a thousand herbalists going, ah that's not easy.

Speaker 3 24:50

I'm I'm I'm sorry, that's just I I'm I'm sure there's something there, but I'm not aware of well again, I think it's just I think it's an easy vehicle for your spell because most of the time, like I said, you're you're either placing something on the leaf, and bay leaves are dried out in case you don't know.

Speaker 6 25:09

Yeah.

When Your Path Needs Change

Speaker 3 25:10

Um, you're placing something on it, or you're writing on the leaf, and then you most typically what I've seen and what I've done with bay leaves is you burn the leaf.

Speaker 6 25:19

Yeah.

Speaker 3 25:20

It's just an easy vehicle. It releases that.

Speaker 6 25:24

Yeah.

Speaker 3 25:24

And you get the herb and the I mean, for that matter, you could go out into your yard and get a maple leaf or an oak leaf or and do the same thing. And do the same thing, I would think.

Speaker 5 25:37

You know, but I again I I I for some reason I still have that in the back of my mind, but if we got about a thousand herbalists going, no, bay leaves?

Speaker 1 25:55

What did they ever do to you?

Speaker 5 25:57

No, learn you learn your herbalism.

Speaker 3 26:04

And I'll admit that is not my forte, so I can't tell you any significance about the bay leaf. What do you do when you feel like it's time for a change in the spiritual path that you've been on for a while? Change? You change. You research something else.

Speaker 5 26:25

Yeah, you you change. I mean it happened.

Speaker 3 26:29

Yeah, it happens all the time.

Speaker 5 26:30

I mean I mean you you change I mean again, if you're I I d I find it difficult to think that you might wind up you know always worshiping the same gods, but because as you get older and all that, you want different things, so different gods and different parts of life start to change, so you start to worship different gods.

unknown 26:53

You know.

Speaker 3 26:54

Well, and sometimes sometimes I find that it manifests itself according to where you are in your life.

Speaker 6 27:03

Yeah.

Speaker 3 27:03

Kind of like when people say, well, you know, um Aphrodite came to me. Da da da da.

Speaker 5 27:11

Well, I mean, I I could see it easily. I it may it makes sense to me, yeah, somebody in their 1920s and be worshiping Aphrodite and the Well, I'm well, I'm just saying whatever age, but yeah.

Speaker 3 27:27

Yeah, I'm just saying that Aphrodite came to me and and told me this, and now I worship Aphrodite.

Speaker 5 27:33

Right, but it but again, when you get older and you're you know, in parenthood and all this, you're gonna probably start worshiping more motherly deities, yes. Or or or ones related to your work or whatever, instead of just what you were doing at are you you with me?

Speaker 3 27:53

Yeah, yeah, and and that's that's where I was kind of going with that. It's just that it's it's when people say, well, you know, this deity came to me. Yeah, I feel like that's that's a way of it's just a way of saying, okay, you've got this going on in your life right now. I represent a particular type of focus that's going on that you might need in order to get through this.

Speaker 5 28:25

Right.

Speaker 3 28:28

And that's the way that's the way I see it.

Following Two Religions

Speaker 5 28:30

Right. I mean, you you or I might represent a problem or an issue that you might need to either correct or do to move on with your life. So again, this represents better. I mean, you know, I again a lot of people we know, I don't think any of us have an absolute belief in one single solitary deity or no, you know. I I don't even I don't even think it's a problem for us to cross over and to pick up deities from other traditions and other places and other religions. Right. Did you know, I'm not gonna sit there and be shocked if a member of temple comes up to me and goes, Well, yeah, here lately in my you know meditations and stuff, I keep on seeing things on Buddha or Jesus or okay. Right, or some or some Hindu deity or you know, there's just something there to me that you need to learn, and this is the best way that source is expressing you to get you to motivate to move that way a little, or to even move away if it's something you don't like.

Speaker 3 29:41

Absolutely, yeah. Well, and maybe it's something that you like, but you don't need in your life.

Speaker 5 29:47

So I'm just saying there's a lot of ways to look at this.

Speaker 3 29:50

Yeah, there's a lot of ways that can manifest.

Speaker 5 29:52

But no, I the the the changing God forbid, yeah.

Speaker 3 29:56

Yeah, there's well, I mean, all our paths change, and this is just the way I see it, all our paths change along the way because we change. Right. So what I practiced 20 years ago is not gonna be the same thing that I'm practicing now.

Speaker 5 30:14

Right, because again, the the things I was concerned at uh when I was 20 years old is not what I'm concerned about when I'm 55.

Speaker 3 30:21

So change is good.

Speaker 5 30:24

Yeah.

Speaker 3 30:24

Embrace it.

Speaker 5 30:25

Go for it.

Speaker 3 30:29

So here's one more. Is it bad to follow two religions? Say like Christianity and paganism.

Speaker 5 30:40

Or Hinduism and paganism, or Hindu and Buddhist, or well, I mean, we we we sit there and we tell people, you know, please don't divide your time. If you're gonna be at our temple, be at our temple. Don't be at our temple and somewhere else.

Speaker 2 30:56

Right.

Speaker 5 30:57

Now, again, with that said, we're not talking about, hey, I'm gonna go over to this place and visit or for one ritual, whatever, but in going out and doing that, we're just talking about you you I think if you're combining them into one practice, you're better off.

Speaker 3 31:15

Maybe. But if you're quite literally splitting your time again, we uh I think you're gonna have some issues there.

Speaker 5 31:27

I I think you are too. I I I I like the idea pick one and study it for and then for a year or two or a year. A year or two, or then focus in on the other one. I don't I don't like the dividing of the time. If you're going to study a tr a tradition, anything, ours or anyone else's, you should just study that one until you got it.

Speaker 3 31:49

Then I think that makes better sense. But again, I think if you're gonna if you're gonna if you're in the research phase and you're researching two different ones, and you find stuff that you want to combine into a singular practice, I think that's okay. I really do. I mean the only the only problem.

Speaker 5 32:09

We've all done that to some extent, but yeah, the the only thing you got to be careful about doing that is to make sure you don't have contradictions.

Speaker 3 32:15

Right. But again, it's your practice. You can but I mean but form it however you want to.

Speaker 5 32:22

But I hate to be this way. I gotta ask you, so when you when we do that, does that not mean that all the other parts of that religion are still just hanging out there? We're just not focusing in on them, but they're still attached to those parts. Are you with what I'm saying there? I mean, technically they are.

Speaker 3 32:41

So again, they'll even if there's contradicting, they're going to same thing could be said about paganism. You know, I'm just asking. If we've if we've take for instance, if we have borrowed something from voodoo to put into our personal pagan practice, again, you're gonna have There are other aspects that are tied to that that brings that along to it. But we don't use that. No. Good question. Is that negatively or positively, or in any way, affecting what we're doing? Or do we just push it off to the side and block it off?

Speaker 5 33:23

Because again, I mean, I could put it to you this way. I mean, this is this not as bad as what you hear everybody saying about oh no, no, no, you're just handpicking or cherry-picking the verses from the Bible and ignoring all this other stuff. Is that not doing the exact same thing when we try to shove these two tradition, two traditions or two religions together that don't really should fit together?

Speaker 3 33:46

Well, it is, but again, we've still done that paganism.

Speaker 5 33:50

I I I'm not saying it doesn't work or it doesn't happen. I mean, look at voodoo. Voodoo's literally African traditions and stuff like that mixed with Catholicism.

Speaker 3 34:01

Right. It's a it's it's a it's a culmination of the city.

Speaker 5 34:04

You know, that literally, I mean, so I'm not saying it can't be done.

Speaker 3 34:08

Just be aware that there are things tied to that that you may have to deal with. Deal with. I think that's fair.

Closing, Credits, And Poem

Speaker 5 34:14

All right. I think I'm ready for some coffee.

Speaker 3 34:16

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Speaker 34:37

We travel down this trodden path, a maze of stone and mire. Just hold my hand as we pass by a sea of blazing pyres, and so it is the end of our days, so walk with me till morning breaks, and so it is the end of our days, so walk with me till morning.